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Carol Rovira and Anthony Ocaña sang “The summer is gone: verbena de un adiós” for Saltar Intro | INTERVIEW

A fleeting love, a start over, an encounter with oneself. He talks about that and more “The summer is gone: verbena of a goodbye”, The fifth and new theme of the musical duo composed by Carol Rovira and Anthony Ocaña, Available from October 21 on all music platforms.

To the rhythm of a fused meringue, which in turn is mixed with the African darbuka, the electric guitar and the voice of Carol and Anthony in the first and second person, respectively, as a whisper, “The summer is gone: verbena of a goodbye”Is a tribute to what was, to memory, to nostalgia.

But who better than Carol and Anthony to tell us about “his new son” in a pleasant talk full of details and passion for music that we present below.

-Hi guys! Finally “El verano se fue: verbena de un adiós” is now available on all music platforms. How is the reception of this new theme going?

Carol: We are overwhelmed, we are surprised at the reception it is getting. With so few hours of life and already people are sharing it and it is crazy. We are very happy.

Anthony: It has been very beautiful because it is a very intimate, spiritual, emotional issue. And of course, the perception of this music is different from music that is more cheerful, perhaps. And I see how people are connecting with that magic, with that spirit and that sound narrative that the song has. She is a beauty in childbirth, it has been a beautiful delivery.

-Apart from the lyrics, the music of this new song gives you precisely that feeling of something that has already left or is leaving. That feels a lot

Anthony: Nostalgia, the ‘saudades’ …

Carol: How nice that it transmits that to you! Because it was really what we wanted, that the music was narrative by itself. That the letter was not needed to count. With the lyrics it is reinforced, yes but that the music already counted a lot.

-How did the topic come about?

Carol: This song was Anthony’s musical idea. One day, in our work meetings he shared with me and I said Wow, how wonderful! It transported me instantly and a word that came out a lot, you know that when you are composing you do not put the lyrics, you are there putting words to fill in the melody a bit but a word that came out a lot was “summer is gone”. And now the melody takes you to a but beautiful farewell, of verbena, of fire, of the full moon, of the sea, of something beautiful and luminous at the same time.

Anthony: And that does not necessarily have to happen in summer because sometimes you go somewhere in winter. I feel that this song also talks about breaking with the routine and falling in love with that break, with that new world that one encounters. Because basically your world disappears because you went to another country and met another group of people, with another visual environment. And you may fall in love with someone or you may not fall in love with anyone; But you fell in love with the situation, with the circumstance in which you are living … And in that little lapse of time that experience is so strong that you want to keep it for life but of course, you have to break with it because you have to return to the routine but that remains impregnated there, in your soul, in your heart and is not forgotten. And that memory, that nostalgia is what this topic talks about. We chose El Caribe as the scenery … In a certain way I understand it as a narrative song, but of course, emotion is paramount in this adventure.

Carol: And it also talks about starting over. In other words, when you travel, when you go away from home, there is something about starting a new video game screen, saying: I am a new person, I am going to start from scratch. There is something about discovering yourself, like that you are more sensitive, more open to everything. When you are in your routine it is like you are on automatic pilot and you do not open these senses. The theme begins very sensorial, for example, with verbena, tropical fruit and rum that are like one of the first stimuli that I get when I travel, especially to the Caribbean, that smell of fruit comes to me, that sweet in the environment. And I think that starting over is also the one that that song pays tribute to, that everything is valid when you go away from home and then come back and remember that with nostalgia and with a smile …

-It also has to do with knowing how to let go as well, because as you say one is going to start again, you focus on yourself

Carol: Hundred percent.

-And how did the theme end up taking shape?

Carol: The embryonic main idea was Anthony’s and then we shared it and decided to put the lyrics to go in the same direction as the music. And as “the summer is gone” was very present and we could not get rid of that phrase, from there we created the story and we have all lived a love story far from home, so it was very easy to share ideas, images between the two of us … it was like very organic to review those love stories that one lives far from home and that last as long as they last and you stay with the past memory.

Anthony: This was like an emotional laboratory because all of us, as Carol said, have experienced these emotions. So how did we work on all aspects of this song? The sound, the words and everything. The contribution of each one is embodied in the song and whether or not the song is biographical, that is the least important. The important thing is the universal feeling that all human beings have to live this new reality and suddenly boom! Coitus interruptus! That emotion is tattooed in your soul and in your heart.

Carol Rovira and the Dominican composer Anthony Ocaña say goodbye to the European summer with a new musical theme.  Photo: Pau Mira

-With this new song, do you think you have managed to come up with your own style? Because although the themes are different from each other, there is already a characteristic sound that is becoming noticeable

Carol: I believe this is a constant search. Note that you do not have to stay anywhere or even think about leaving. It’s kind of very organic and I think what we have to do is listen to each other and know if what we are doing vibrates, moves us and moves us. And I think that, more than labels, because we try to escape from that (many people tell us: you are a mixture of pop and merengue) Yes, the songs we have done are many things and we do not stay there because it is not our intention to stay. Maybe this evolves to something very different or we stay with these mixed styles.

Anthony: I think the interesting thing is to find the common points that move us both inside and that these points can evolve because emotions such as sounds impact you and two years pass and they no longer produce that same feeling. The song is almost a photograph of something even more interesting and this is the work that we do every day: finding those sound and emotional corners of words that unite us and make us reach and bring out these children and basically the beauty of work is to keep looking for those corners. The most interesting point, I think, is that journey, the process. The sound is increasingly integrated better, that is indisputable but this has to continue, I don’t know if improving or simply evolving. Because if you evolve you are alive and if you stop evolving I think you are dead and repeating a not so good echo.

Carol Rovira and Anthony Ocaña.

-In “Green, yellow, blue” they used many craft instruments, onion paper, your bottle of water, for example. What did you think of for “El verano se fue”?

Anthony: The first thing that came to mind was to use the merengue drum, to be precise a more serious drum. This element was necessary and then the African darbuka (from North Africa that came to the Caribbean). The instrumentation in this case is more traditional but the use of it was another laboratory. How to get that best sound out of it? How to use voices as percussive elements? It is not breaking with the tradition that would be the merengue but how in this song each instrument asks you to exist. Even the rhythm that Carol and I have worked on for the voice is extremely interesting. When she sings, she is doing percussion on the song.

Carol: The electric guitar also has its speech here and that was cool too. It has a southern air, I don’t know. It gives it a special touch too. It seems like a voice that is there protesting.

-And the theme of the voice, as they say, is kind of a whisper that accompanies all this melody

Carol: And that’s one of the questions we asked ourselves: How do we sing it? Because we both sing. I lead the main voice but Anthony accompanies doubling the voice, because we really liked that there were two voices … Because it is how you are when you travel, when you go on vacation, when you live a story like that. It’s like you’re in a cloud and there’s a lot of air … Don’t put your voice there with a shoehorn, but rather make it somewhat vaporous and I think we achieve that.

-Is there a new topic on the way?

Anthony: Yes, there are several issues in the works

Carol: It is as if we have opened the range and we are working on several issues and then deciding what the next release is.

Anthony: The path of evolution and of finding those new places that we would like to transmit and capture through a song is present and we already have a new repertoire. The only thing is, we don’t know exactly what the next step is to take. Right now we are living the adventure of “The summer is gone.”

Carol: Yes! We are going to enjoy “The summer is gone” and see what comes from here. If you are always thinking about the following it does not make sense. We are going to stop, enjoy this, live it and be able to transmit it if necessary with guitar and voice, in acoustic it is also very nice.

-Are there plans to do a live show? In Spain? In Europe? In Latin America?

Carol: Yeah right! That is the end goal. What we are doing is creating a repertoire at our own pace, without haste, for when the entire repertoire is out on tour.

Anthony: We would love to go on tour. That is part of that project. What we have to do is finish making the album and then go on tour to present this repertoire.

Carol: We would love to go to Latin America as well. We screamed.

Anthony: I am Latin American and I connect a lot, Carol also. Because Latin America has many universes. Look at Peru, we know it as a more indigenous land but then you have the blackest Peru, you have Susana Baca. She has done such a great job that we begin to see that more magnificent Afro-Peruvian world.

-Will you sing us a bit of the new song?

Carol y Anthony: Yes of course!

-Thanks guys. Many hits with the new theme.

Carol y Anthony: Thank you! This is the first time that we sing the song live. A pleasure!

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